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  1. Hello Liane,
    I just found your page when googling ‘boys club’ As women we talk about the ‘boys club’ in our workplaces but cannot describe it as well as you do. Your descriptions are solidly based in the psychology of human behaviours in response to being oppressed or being the oppressor. Women, as any other oppressed group, use many skills to survive. There are also the women who so desperately want to be accepted by the ‘boys club’ for their survival. To achieve this I have witnessed them becoming adversaries to women themselves.

    I work as a teacher in a male dominated workplace and have struggled for over 5 years to support a colleague who was targeted by male executives because she spoke truth to management. She was a new teacher and may not have ever before experienced a male dominated workplace at this level. Her naivity and also her convictions for what was fair for other staff and her students brought her to date 5 years of bullying and harrassment from management and many other staff both male and female who also want themselves to be accepted into the boys club.

    This teacher is almost broken by the relentless dismissing of her bullying by a number of government authorities who are supposed to stamp out workplace bullying and the ongoing and now ramped up determination by the seemingly teflon coated management to punish her for questioning them.

    Liane your articles speak to me clearly of what I see and experience everyday in my workplace. Your articles tell of your strength and determination to not let the boys club destroy you. Women like you are so important in our struggle to achieve fairness and equality in the workplace.

    I keep going for my colleague, and I will never let her down, as I see by doing that I am slowing the boys club a little from their seamless merciless rule.


  2. There is a shift in the minds of many women who are starting to wake up about the harassment they have been subjected to and are speaking out more than ever before. Unfortunately women who work within the male dominated workplace are slow to unite with one another, but that is changing as well. I am so glad that you are a support for your colleague.

    When I started to speak out 10 years ago, about the harassment and gender discrimination in both my workplaces, it was the beginning of the most difficult time in my life and would not have ever expected to take this long for justice but a decade later I’m still fighting and speaking out.

    Nothing is changed easily, these are archaic times and systems that have been in place for a long time – of course they are going to call us crazy – they will say she doesn’t know what she talking about because for them it’s the status quo – a lot know inappropriate things are happening to women but it’s the status quo and everyone is afraid and hesitant to step forward

    New thinkers – women fighting for rights and equality are called crazy and looked at with suspicion – this is normal. Gather yourself and move forward

    They are hoping we walk away defeated, don’t

    Don’t let them intimidate you into silence. Don’t be sad, get mad and use your anger to support yourself and set up a blog or webpage and speak out –

    We are trying to change the perspective of a whole culture – huge undertaking – no wonder we have been met with betrayal and zero support.

    These organizations, employers, and government agencies just add to the abuse by doing nothing as you know, and ignore and dismiss, but this cannot continue either as long as women keep speaking out.

    Your colleague and you are rare – you did not succumb to the pressures of conforming and putting up with the Boy’s Club BS and should be proud of that.

    Years ago, I didn’t recognize the harassment and gender discrimination as a systemic issue and because of that I suffered more then I should have.

    Remember – it’s them, not us. Their busy blaming us, making us silent by telling us it’s our fault by saying we deserve it, when it’s them and their small mindedness and inability to see their weakness and vulnerability as men, threatened by the changes that are happening with women who are starting to gain independence and autonomy. Resentful that the scales are tipping from the favor of men, the Boy’s Club is panicking and acting badly.

    It’s their inability to take responsibility for their own bad behavior. The patriarchal system which is what our institutions and industry are based in aren’t doing a thing and don’t care about female workers. Women are the only ones to stop the harassment for now until others join
    Don’t give up. Your friend/colleague is not the problem, they are. If you can continue to fight, please do.

    My next blog coming out next week is about why women don’t speak out and why we need to. Please stay tuned and follow my blog so you can receive postings regularly.

    Thanks for contacting me

  3. I have experienced this kind of discrimination in my places of work too. I got my truck licence on 1991 and over the years I’ve heard all kinds of things. One foreman told me that I was taking some man’s job. One man said that since he was doing me a favour by getting me work that I should be doing him a favour. At one job, recently, I decided to sweep the shop after I’d made a mess and the boss found out and suggested that it was a good job for me as a woman. These are but a few of the comments, not to mention the looks and odd treatment. I’ve been passed over and looked down upon, propositioned and belittled. There are always a couple good ones who accept you for who you are, but mostly you’re treated like a second class citizen.

    The only thing that makes all this struggle worthwhile is that I love driving and loading and unloading my vehicle. I’m happy on the road.

    • Thanks Katie for messaging me. It’s pathetic that this kind of kind of BS still happens to us. Things are changing slowly, but don’t stop speaking out. It’s important we keep talking about the harassment. My email is if I can help in any way

  4. I’d be interested in reading your blog about your fight with the old boys club and discrimination in the workplace.
    I’m an aircraft maintenance engineer and for most of my 17+ yrs in aviation have been the only woman on the floor, often the first woman the company has hired. I work for a great company now with a supportive all male crew AND I still experience gender discrimination and sexist bullshit on an almost daily basis!

    For years I looked for support and couldn’t find anyone other than my friends and family to talk to. Fierce determination, stubbornness, tenacity…call it what you will…helped me dig my feet in and stay in the trades. If you tell me I can’t do something or don’t belong simply because I’m a woman, it just fuels my fire and desire to prove the patriarchal old boys club wrong.

    I run an open Facebook group for tradeswomen and the people who encourage and support women working in the trades called “Chicks in the Trades”. It’s a place for tradeswomen to come together and talk about our challenges, blow off steam in a safe place, hold one another up and celebrate our successes.

    I started getting involved in public speaking at trades events and conferences, mentoring and speaking out about discrimination in the trades. I have been both encouraged by the numbers of women entering the trades and mobilizing forces, and discouraged by the lack of forward movement and percentage of women who not only enter but actually stay in their chosen trade and succeed. We STILL have such a long way to go!

    Please add me to your list of followers and check out the Chicks in the Trades site. If you’d like to share your story and ideas there, that’d be great. Keep fighting sister…there are thousands of women in the trades fighting the same fight on a daily basis. A tradeswomen on her own is without a doubt a strong woman…speaking out and acting together, we are a force to be reckoned with! Thanks for all you do!

  5. Hi Liane,

    I’ve had my own horrible ordeal with the men in the local volunteer fire department behaving badly here in rural Nova Scotia. I was in contact with the fifth estate CBC television program when the fire within episode aired in November. Nothing ever came of that contact I made with the producer despite several exchanges between us. I’d love to have a chat with you and offer my support and possibly brainstorm together on solutions to the problem. It needs to be addressed not just aired on television for ratings and forgotten about. Change is imminent.

  6. Your courage touches my heart, your strength inspires us all.
    There have been many women who have paved the way for future generations and I thank you. You have many supporters male and female.

    Natalie parsons

  7. Hi! Thank you for existing and for having the language to talk about all of this! I am working on developing my own vocabulary to assertively exist in a male dominated culture as a female electrician. I have just become a journeywoman and thought I would be treated as an equal once I reached this holy land, but have been disappointed. I am stoked to have been introduced to your blog by a woman I was speaking with (whom had been a female in the military and shared similar experiences to trades women), and look forward to following it.
    I have been writing a blog documenting my apprenticeship, in case you are interested!
    Thanks again! -Kla

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